Wow, Graham, so it's not just in my field (learning design) that this is happening then? I've just been working on the most appallingly designed piece of learning you ever saw, but the client thinks the design is done and just wants us to make it pretty. And this is closer to the matter of which camp schools are in than I describe without giving away who the client is (naming and shaming them could lead to me getting panned and canned).