Hey Harold,

Well, at the risk of complicating further.....

whilst i know I will ruffle some feathers my perspective on this is that we too often assume a utopian state and also assume that the individual has the intrinsic "competence" to learn without formal intervention or direction.

Recently I had a major implementation of a "new way of thinking about your business" program to roll out to managers of our distribution network. When we went to them and said "this is your choice, how would you like to learn?" . The overwhelming response was a blend of formal classroom education and the opportunity to network in a community of practice.

The problem we face is that the place of work becomes, for a lot of people, the last educational institution they will attend. This is why the 'Senge' version of the learning organisation is important. People bring with them their early and secondary educational models of learning and given they are "mostly" comfortable with them they tend to continue to want this in some form or another.

I do not necessarily disagree, but I do not think we have learned enough about why traditional models have worked in the past. Lots to learn yet me thinks....