In big companies the issue is that Hierarchical Orgs have to live aside to self-managing networks: the long term goal is to work on "and" solutions and not on "or" ones. No way we can avoid "charts" in big companies, but what is inside units and the way they are managed, is the place where searching for self managed networks. We have to develop flexible views of organisational strategies, according to all the other strategical issues and time frames.